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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Arsenic in Water and Diabetes by Tony</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/08/22/arsenic-in-water-and-diabetes/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/08/22/arsenic-in-water-and-diabetes/#comment-165</guid>
		<description>Awesome article about a topic more people need to know about! And you're right that home drinking water test kits don't equal a lab test. They are handy tools in the field, though, for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article about a topic more people need to know about! And you&#8217;re right that home drinking water test kits don&#8217;t equal a lab test. They are handy tools in the field, though, for sure!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Secondary Drinking Water Standards by Water Testing Information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iron in Drinking Water</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/22/secondary-drinking-water-standards/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Testing Information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iron in Drinking Water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/22/secondary-drinking-water-standards/#comment-98</guid>
		<description>[...] an unpleasant taste, etc.  It does not, however, at least according to the current Primary and Secondary Drinking Water Standards set forth by the USEPA, pose a health [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] an unpleasant taste, etc.  It does not, however, at least according to the current Primary and Secondary Drinking Water Standards set forth by the USEPA, pose a health [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Primary Drinking Water Standards by Water Testing Information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iron in Drinking Water</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/16/primary-drinking-water-standards/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Testing Information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iron in Drinking Water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/16/primary-drinking-water-standards/#comment-97</guid>
		<description>[...] water to have an unpleasant taste, etc.  It does not, however, at least according to the current Primary and Secondary Drinking Water Standards set forth by the USEPA, pose a health [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] water to have an unpleasant taste, etc.  It does not, however, at least according to the current Primary and Secondary Drinking Water Standards set forth by the USEPA, pose a health [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Secondary Drinking Water Standards by Water Testing Information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WaterWorks Total Iron (Fe+2/Fe+3) Visual Test Kit</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/22/secondary-drinking-water-standards/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Testing Information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WaterWorks Total Iron (Fe+2/Fe+3) Visual Test Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/22/secondary-drinking-water-standards/#comment-95</guid>
		<description>[...] National Secondary Drinking Water Regulations, as set forth by the USEPA, recommend an iron level of no more than 0.3 ppm. Detection levels for the WaterWorksTM Total Iron visual test are 0, 0.3, 0.5, 1, 3, 5 mg/L (ppm). The test kit contains 50 individually wrapped foil powder pillows, a test vial with cap, and a color chart card &#8212; everything you need to detect total iron in drinking water. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] National Secondary Drinking Water Regulations, as set forth by the USEPA, recommend an iron level of no more than 0.3 ppm. Detection levels for the WaterWorksTM Total Iron visual test are 0, 0.3, 0.5, 1, 3, 5 mg/L (ppm). The test kit contains 50 individually wrapped foil powder pillows, a test vial with cap, and a color chart card &#8212; everything you need to detect total iron in drinking water. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dangerous Arsenic Levels in Food by Water Testing Blog</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/05/06/dangerous-arsenic-levels-in-food/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Testing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/05/06/dangerous-arsenic-levels-in-food/#comment-94</guid>
		<description>According to the literature, the Arsenic Quick line of test kits detects free dissolved +3 and +5 arsenic.  It does not detect organically bound arsenic. With regard to the other matter, we suggest you take that matter up with the makers of the Arsenic Quick test kits.  We suspect, however, that they will refer you to the &lt;a href=http://www.sensafe.com/01_vr_quick.pdf rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;EPA/ETV Verification Report&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=http://www.sensafe.com/01_vs_quick.pdf rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;EPA/ETV Verification Statement&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry we don't have any more concrete answers to your questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the literature, the Arsenic Quick line of test kits detects free dissolved +3 and +5 arsenic.  It does not detect organically bound arsenic. With regard to the other matter, we suggest you take that matter up with the makers of the Arsenic Quick test kits.  We suspect, however, that they will refer you to the <a href=http://www.sensafe.com/01_vr_quick.pdf rel="nofollow"><strong>EPA/ETV Verification Report</strong></a> and the <a href=http://www.sensafe.com/01_vs_quick.pdf rel="nofollow"><strong>EPA/ETV Verification Statement</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Sorry we don&#8217;t have any more concrete answers to your questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bacteria and Microorganisms in Water by Water Testing Blog</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Testing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-92</guid>
		<description>We appreciate your enthusiasm for water testing and providing information to the public about vital water quality issues.  And now on with the Show:

1)  Visit http://www.epa.gov/safewater/disinfection/tcr/regulation.html and you will see that the allowed testing window for a drawn sample is 24 hours, not 30.

2)  We have learned that the Bacteria Check product DOES use the same sort of media as outlined in the "Standard Methods for the Examination of Water and Wastewater", 9221 D, Presence-Absence (P-A) Coliform Test and has gone through sterilization process.  Additionally we are told that the product went through an evaluation by an outside, independent laboratory before going on the market

3)  Don't you think it slightly rude to imply that the average home or business owner cannot POSSIBLY follow directions and get useful and accurate information about the quality of their water using a home test kit?

4)  Define EPA Compliant for us, since you seem to have its definition right at your fingertips.  As far as we know, and at no time do we ever claim to know everything, the term EPA Compliant means using pretty much the same chemistry and procedure as an EPA Approved Method, only deviating slightly at some point. . . and still getting comparable, accurate results.

5)  Yes, the Total Coliform procedure outlined in Standard Methods DOES specifically state that samples should get incubated at the temperature you mentioned.  Does that mean, however, that people who don't HAVE incubators handy should not use available tools to at least SCREEN their water?

5)  Yes, the Bacteria Check, and all tests for that matter, require aseptic sampling to ensure accurate test results.  That does not MEAN, however, that even if a person followed the instructions as closely to the letter as possible that an accidental slip up would not occur and a sample would get contaminated.  Even laboratory veterans such as yourself may fall victim to an occasional slip up in procedure once in a while.  To imply otherwise would make you... Perfect?

In conclusion, we do not suggest that ANYONE trust the results of a home water test kit if they have serious reason to believe their drinking water may have gotten contaminated.  Home water test kits allow end users to pre-screen their water and perform routine checks on their water to make certain the quality of their water has not changed over time.  In the event that they get unusual results, they should ALWAYS call upon Certified Laboratories (such as yours) for the final word on the safety and potability of their drinking water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We appreciate your enthusiasm for water testing and providing information to the public about vital water quality issues.  And now on with the Show:</p>
<p>1)  Visit <a href="http://www.epa.gov/safewater/disinfection/tcr/regulation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/safewater/disinfection/tcr/regulation.html</a> and you will see that the allowed testing window for a drawn sample is 24 hours, not 30.</p>
<p>2)  We have learned that the Bacteria Check product DOES use the same sort of media as outlined in the &#8220;Standard Methods for the Examination of Water and Wastewater&#8221;, 9221 D, Presence-Absence (P-A) Coliform Test and has gone through sterilization process.  Additionally we are told that the product went through an evaluation by an outside, independent laboratory before going on the market</p>
<p>3)  Don&#8217;t you think it slightly rude to imply that the average home or business owner cannot POSSIBLY follow directions and get useful and accurate information about the quality of their water using a home test kit?</p>
<p>4)  Define EPA Compliant for us, since you seem to have its definition right at your fingertips.  As far as we know, and at no time do we ever claim to know everything, the term EPA Compliant means using pretty much the same chemistry and procedure as an EPA Approved Method, only deviating slightly at some point. . . and still getting comparable, accurate results.</p>
<p>5)  Yes, the Total Coliform procedure outlined in Standard Methods DOES specifically state that samples should get incubated at the temperature you mentioned.  Does that mean, however, that people who don&#8217;t HAVE incubators handy should not use available tools to at least SCREEN their water?</p>
<p>5)  Yes, the Bacteria Check, and all tests for that matter, require aseptic sampling to ensure accurate test results.  That does not MEAN, however, that even if a person followed the instructions as closely to the letter as possible that an accidental slip up would not occur and a sample would get contaminated.  Even laboratory veterans such as yourself may fall victim to an occasional slip up in procedure once in a while.  To imply otherwise would make you&#8230; Perfect?</p>
<p>In conclusion, we do not suggest that ANYONE trust the results of a home water test kit if they have serious reason to believe their drinking water may have gotten contaminated.  Home water test kits allow end users to pre-screen their water and perform routine checks on their water to make certain the quality of their water has not changed over time.  In the event that they get unusual results, they should ALWAYS call upon Certified Laboratories (such as yours) for the final word on the safety and potability of their drinking water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dangerous Arsenic Levels in Food by Scott Bradley</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/05/06/dangerous-arsenic-levels-in-food/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/05/06/dangerous-arsenic-levels-in-food/#comment-91</guid>
		<description>Can you please tell me how you can have a detection level of 0.0 ppb?

I have an Atomic Absorption Spectrometer, (cost me 30K) and I am NELAC accredited for Arsenic in drinking water.  I have an MDL (method detection limit) of o.002 mg/L., or 2 parts per billion.  How can you get a 0.0 MDL with a test kit?  Also, are you testing total arsenic? (+3 &#38; + 5?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please tell me how you can have a detection level of 0.0 ppb?</p>
<p>I have an Atomic Absorption Spectrometer, (cost me 30K) and I am NELAC accredited for Arsenic in drinking water.  I have an MDL (method detection limit) of o.002 mg/L., or 2 parts per billion.  How can you get a 0.0 MDL with a test kit?  Also, are you testing total arsenic? (+3 &amp; + 5?).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bacteria and Microorganisms in Water by Scott Bradley</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-90</guid>
		<description>A Total Coliform test without an incubator is NOT EPA compliant.  It is a 30 hour hold time from the time the sample is taken before it must be run.   

C'mon you guys.  Most NVLAP accredited labs (like mine) use a defined substrate media (like Colilert) to test E. coli as well as Total Coliforms simultaneously. 

Let's get with the program and stop pretending home test kits used by inexperienced "analysts" will give accurate results.  There are many great home test kits, but there are reasons why the incubation temperature for Coliform bacteria is 35.0 degrees C. +/- 0.5 degrees C.  

With regard to the "sloppy sampling technique"   aseptic sampling is required for Total Coliform analysis, and instruction for taking the sample must accompany the sample kit.

 

I am glad to answer any questions anyone has about this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Total Coliform test without an incubator is NOT EPA compliant.  It is a 30 hour hold time from the time the sample is taken before it must be run.   </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon you guys.  Most NVLAP accredited labs (like mine) use a defined substrate media (like Colilert) to test E. coli as well as Total Coliforms simultaneously. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get with the program and stop pretending home test kits used by inexperienced &#8220;analysts&#8221; will give accurate results.  There are many great home test kits, but there are reasons why the incubation temperature for Coliform bacteria is 35.0 degrees C. +/- 0.5 degrees C.  </p>
<p>With regard to the &#8220;sloppy sampling technique&#8221;   aseptic sampling is required for Total Coliform analysis, and instruction for taking the sample must accompany the sample kit.</p>
<p>I am glad to answer any questions anyone has about this subject.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bacteria and Microorganisms in Water by Water Testing Blog</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Testing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-89</guid>
		<description>The Bacteria Check test is an EPA Compliant test method and from what we have heard, is pretty much the same test as the one some laboratories use -- with the exception that the lab test requires an incubator.

We have heard that 'sloppy sampling techniques' cause a lot of the inaccurate bacteria test results.  As for whether or not shipping can cause inaccurate results, we do not know.

We DO know that many states require water samples to undergo bacteria testing within 24 hours of getting drawn from the source.  Therefore it would make sense that water samples which take longer to reach a testing facility (as in by regular postal service) may yield possibly inaccurate test results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bacteria Check test is an EPA Compliant test method and from what we have heard, is pretty much the same test as the one some laboratories use &#8212; with the exception that the lab test requires an incubator.</p>
<p>We have heard that &#8217;sloppy sampling techniques&#8217; cause a lot of the inaccurate bacteria test results.  As for whether or not shipping can cause inaccurate results, we do not know.</p>
<p>We DO know that many states require water samples to undergo bacteria testing within 24 hours of getting drawn from the source.  Therefore it would make sense that water samples which take longer to reach a testing facility (as in by regular postal service) may yield possibly inaccurate test results.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bacteria and Microorganisms in Water by (Mr.) Brooke Winter</title>
		<link>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>(Mr.) Brooke Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://watertestingblog.com/2008/07/30/bacteria-and-microorganisms-in-water/#comment-87</guid>
		<description>What about the unintended consequence of NOT having an accurate biological testing result because SHIPPING water causes inaccurate results ~20% of the time?  Shouldn't we be able to get accurate results...and do so WITHOUT shipping the actual water sample?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the unintended consequence of NOT having an accurate biological testing result because SHIPPING water causes inaccurate results ~20% of the time?  Shouldn&#8217;t we be able to get accurate results&#8230;and do so WITHOUT shipping the actual water sample?</p>
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